Thursday, June 19, 2014

if i make money off a website of mine, i will upgrade to paid cloudflare

meowface 13 hours ago | link


Relating to the excellent amount of funding Cloudflare has been getting...


How exactly does Cloudflare afford to be a reverse proxy for millions of domains, at absolutely no charge? Are there some economies of scale I'm missing here? Obviously they make a good amount of revenue from their premium plans, but I suspect the vast, vast majority of all their users are on the free tier.


They're nearly an ISP at this point, so from a very naive outsider's perspective it sounds like they would be bleeding money from this approach.


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jgrahamc 13 hours ago | link


Obviously they make a good amount of money from their premium plans


You answered your own question.


They're nearly an ISP at this point


Not really, CloudFlare doesn't have any 'last mile' to pay for.


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meowface 13 hours ago | link


The thing is, it seems to me like a lot of sites that get a ton of traffic still use their free tier. There are no actual bandwidth limits at the free tier, just some missing features. They never require anyone to upgrade.


Even their higher tiers are pretty cheaply priced, including enterprise level: http://ift.tt/He5IEM


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jgrahamc 13 hours ago | link


They never require anyone to upgrade.


People upgrade to get better service (including the missing features) not because of some artificial limit (like bandwidth). If you upgrade because you want to, not because you have to, you're likely a better customer.


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meowface 13 hours ago | link


Personally I don't think bandwidth is an artificial limit, or that it's unreasonable to require an upgrade after a certain cap. A site with 100,000 daily visitors will be able to afford at least the business tier.


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jgrahamc 13 hours ago | link


Sure, but why treat a customer like a mobile phone customer who has to worry about what plan they are on to figure out how much they are spending?


It makes more sense to have flat pricing and to have feature that entice businesses to upgrade.


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angersock 11 hours ago | link


Wow. If I ever need a service like yours, you've got my business.


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frankacter 11 hours ago | link


Just in case you were unaware, jgrahamc (aka John Graham Cumming) is the Platform Lead for CloudFlare.


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eastdakota 11 hours ago | link


Actually, John Roberts is Platform Lead. John Graham-Cumming's very modest title is "programmer":


http://ift.tt/1uEl6AB


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ryguytilidie 9 hours ago | link


I'm confused...


http://ift.tt/1uEl8IL...


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eastdakota 8 hours ago | link


There are no VPs, directors, etc. We tend toward functional titles: programmer, support, sales, member of technical staff.


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